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Dreams and questions

Ok, i haven't asked a question here in awhile, but since the first of May i've been having odd dreams and it's bringing up questions about association and such that i don't know how to answer. In the past year, goddess associations with trees and water keep showing up in my life, my cards, and in my dreams. Since May Day, i've been dreaming about this a lot, and the Morrigan is always plainly a part of it. It seems to be a theme, and i feel strongly that there's a point trying to be gotten across here. (but what it is, i'm not sure yet) My own personal feelings toward water and the sea and things related have changed totally in the past few years, (from negative to positive) and the change has seemed to coincide with the upswing of these strange (for me) associations. And over and over again, it has appeared to be goddess related.
But i'm dedicated to the Morrigan...so i'm a bit confused.

THis brings me to my question.
Are there any nature associations that any of you are aware of, traditionally, with the Morrigan? Specifically, water, the sea or ocean, storms, and...for some reason...trees? (i think i remember a storm connection in a battle story..i'll need to go back and look) And is there any connection that could link the Morrigan as an aspect of Danu or Dana? i remember reading once that some people thought they were connected, and it certainly would explain some things for me...but i'm not at all sure and wanted other's opinions on the subject. She's always been so completely linked with strength, battle, and change for me, that this is a confusing departure from what i know.
Thanks, and i hope this makes at least a little sense...i'm a bit flustered on how to ask what it is i'm wondering about. :)


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May. 10th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
I do recall a connection in one of the myths I read to Danu. Do you have the book the Guises of the Morrigan? Because I don't have time right now, but I checked the index and Danu is referenced on about 15 pages.
May. 10th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
i do! i'll have to go back and look, thank you! :) i liked that book for what it was, and it does make you think and approach things differently...but i remember thinking some of the connection felt a bit far-fetched to me. However, i'm feeling like Danu might not be far-fetched at all...i just have to go back and really take a look at all this. It's been so long since i've researched on her, that this feels like it's new all over again...you know?
Thank you!
May. 12th, 2008 04:28 am (UTC)
Anu or Danu is given as one of the daughters of Ernmas in Lebor Gabala "The Book of Invasions".

"Badb and Macha and Anu, from whom the Paps of Anu in Luachair are [named], were the three daughters of Ernmas the sorceress." (Book of Leinster version)

the Book of Fermoy copy glosses Macha .i. in Morrigan.

in the genealogy of the Tuatha Dé, we find:

"Badb and Macha and Anu, i.e. the Morrígan, from whom the Two Paps of Ana in Luachair are [named], were the three daughters of Ernmas the sorceress." (from the LG, redaction 2)

finally, we find:

"The Morrigan, daughter of Delbaeth, was the mother of the other sons of Delbaeth, that is, Brian, Iucharba, and Iuchair; and it is from her other name "Danu" the Paps of Ana in Luachair are (so) called, as well as the Túatha Dé Danann." (from the LG, redaction 3 - note that earlier in this section, she is described as the daughter of Ernmas and Delbaeth, while Delbaeth is himself described as the son of Ogma Grianinech)

there are other references, but these should do for a start.
May. 13th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you! (and thank you for telling me where each quote was from, that helps a lot)
i seem to remember making a connection between the Morrigan and Anu before, back a long time ago when i was first learning about her...but i just forgot about the connection! i have no idea why, but it totally slipped my memory...now i'm going to go see if i can find out more about Anu and Danu.

You know, it's amazing to me, how people see her as such an easily defined goddess at first glance, when looking at the information leads you to the conclusion that she is anything BUT easily defined. It looks like she is much broader a goddess than the neo-pagan triple-goddess philosophy can encompass.
i'm glad of that; it makes things much more interesting. :)
May. 13th, 2008 10:10 am (UTC)
About the connection of Morrigan and the sea (ocean)
It is the common point of view, that the ocean is represented as the world of the dead (or the shroud between the world of men an the other world). That is why we certainly can speak about the existence of such a connection on mythical level, if Morrigan is to be seen as the goddes of fate (doom).
I'm sure there are some academical researches about the views on death and the localisation of the other world in Celtic myths, You can always try to seek for the answers there.
I'm sorry for my poor English.
May. 13th, 2008 06:48 pm (UTC)
Re: About the connection of Morrigan and the sea (ocean)
(your English is great, thank you!) :)

Wow. i got goose-bumps when i read your reply! This is something i'd never thought about, and your conept of it hit me like a ton of bricks. i honestly had no idea that the Ocean could be seen as the world of the dead, but the Ocean had always felt prohibitively powerful to me...it's always been the one place i wouldn't go into. i love the Ocean; i love the look and the smell and the power of it...but no matter how often i see others go blithely into the surf and swim...i can't do it. i've always felt that there was something there that other people were ignoring or not seeing...i just felt like i didn't want to go in there yet.
Now i have to wonder why that is.
Hmmm, i'm really going to give this some thought; thank you!
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